Robert Bagby Report

Generation Five

 

JOHN CARROLL BAGBY 5, (WILLIAM 4, ROBERT 3, WILLIAM 2, ROBERT 1) was born July 13, 1853 and died December 6, 1889. He married Mrs. MARY A. GARNER [GREEN] October 11, 1875 in Adams County, Illinois. She was born Unknown June 1848, Illinois and died Unknown after 1910, unknown.

Note: All of the detailed research about John Carroll Bagby, submitted by Dan Dunham.

More About JOHN CARROLL BAGBY: Burial: Pulaski Cemetery, Hancock County, Illinois. Birth and Death dates taken from grave marker. Occupation: Druggist.

Correspondence from Dr. H. E. Elliott, Astonia, Illinois, dated June 10, 1889, to Homer Mead, Huntsville, Illinois, "Wallace Bagby entered the Army a strong healthy man and that in it he contracted lung disease which terminated in consumption of which he died. I was the attending physician."

Both Wm. Wallace and John C. died young, in their 30s. Wallace's death was related to his illness during the Civil War — he contracted lung disease in the Army which terminated in consumption of which he died, per Dr. H. E. Elliott in a correspondence dated June 10, 1889, to Homer Mead, Huntsville, Illinois. Wallace was only 32, about two weeks short of 33 years old. I have not yet discovered why John C. died at 36 years old.

I have a letter written by John C. to his parents in February 1886. My transcription, typed just as written, spelling, grammer and all, follows:

Letter to Mr. Wm. Bagby.
Augusta, Hancock County, Illinois.
Postmarked, Decatur, Ill, Feb 10, 10AM.
Written by John Carrol Bagby, February 9, 1886.
Handwritten letter from family papers, transcribed by Dan Dunham © 2000.

Decatur, ILL

February 9th, '86

Dear Father & Mother

I have been looking for a letter from you for some time but have not heard from you since we came here. We are living in the house with Mag - we rented one room from her for the present and will probably stay here until the first of next month. I have not succeeded in getting employment here yet. Mag wrote to me before I came that she would give me employment if I would come, but when I came I found she was not doing business enough to support herself. If she had a house on ground floor I could bring her enough boarders to make her some money. But she has taken a flat, where I can not get a traveling man to go up, and she only has one or two steady boarders and pays $25.00 rent per month. I am going to get her a cheaper house by the first of next month and in a better location.

There is a butcher here that wants me to go in with him. He has a nice shop and all the tools needed and says if I will put in fifty dollars and attend the selling he will do the slaughtering and delivering and divide the profits with me. It is a splendid chance to make some money if I only had the wherewith to do it.

This is a fine business town. There is 13- Rail Roads here and the Wabash R.R. Shops and lots of manufacturing of different lines of all kinds of framing implements and machinery. Decatur lies about 70 miles North east of Jacksonsville and about 30 miles from Springfield. It is on the Sangamon River. The town gets its water supply from this river. The water is as hard as well water. I think it is Lime water.

How are the folks at home, does Grand Ma keep well? I can not write anymore tonight only I must tell you about Jennie Carden getting poisoned on Prix Vomica prescribe by her Dr. and put in a glass of water and Lida gave it to her to drink after taking other medicine. I had hard work to save her life, but I knew just what it was as soon as I tasted it and I dosed her from 7 P.M. until 2 A.M. before I got her out of it. And Mollie had to give herself a worse dose yesterday morning when she got up. She felt weak and bad so she went and got both of Wyth's Elixir and Quinine Iron & Strychnine that she had been taking before we got here. She took it on an empty stomach before breakfast and she should have waited until after breakfast. It almost laid her out. I vomited her 5 times during the day before I got the strychnine out of her. She is so weak now she can hardly sit up. I told them all today that if any of them took poison again they might turn up their toes for it is no fool of a trick to counteract such medicine as that.

Write soon and address 144 Merchant Street. All send love to you.

Ever your affectionate son.

John

 

( The people mentioned are )

Mag = Margaret Elizabeth Bagby Wade. Sister to John C. and divorced wife of Dr. William D. Wade — she was his second of four wives - she never remarried and lived until November 9, 1936.

Grand Ma = Sarah L. Thompson Waring, mother of Eliza Waring Bagby. She was born October 22, 1799 and died August 31, 1890.

Jennie Carden = Martha Jennie Carden, daughter of Sarah M Waring (sister of Eliza Waring Bagby) and James H. Carden.

Lida = Lida Margaret Wade Walker Cooper. Lida was the daughter of Margaret Elizabeth Bagby Wade and Dr. William D. Wade. Her first husband, Charles Marshall Cooper, died of Typhoid Fever on April 15, 1904, 3 1/2 months after their second child, Donna Margaret Walker McQueen was born. Lida second married Sylvester Burton Cooper on March 21, 1906.

Mollie = unknown.

 

John C. married Mrs. Mary A. Green, her maiden name was Garner, she was the daughter of Rev. Greenbury Garner, a Methodist Minister and Mary Jane Redman. They apparently had one daughter named Murtes Bagby. She is mentioned in the Will of William Bagby, dated 23, June, 1904 and probated in 1908-09. "Secondly: I give and devise to Murtes Bagby, daughter of my deceased son, John C. Bagby, the sum of Five Dollars ($5.00)." The final report of the executer found that she had died before the Will was written in June of 1904. In addition, another researcher makes note of a son named Martin Bagby, although I have found no other reference to this individual.

 

The following research is from Dan Dunham, December, 2003 and submitted for publishing.

Morgan County Illinois Death Register that notes:

Death Records — Volume 2
Name; Bagby, John
Birth: blank
Where: IL
S/R/MS: M/W/mar
Death: 6 Dec1889
Where: J'Ville SH
Buried Hancock Co IL
Age: 35 yrs

Note: This is a match for his death date and burial location. What is new is the location for the death — Morgan County, Illinois. John is shown as still married.

"J'Ville SH" was new to me so I did some further research. In the second source I made the following discovery:

Illinois Death Index Pre-1916 (Illinois State Archives)
Vol 2, page 21
Name of Deceased: Bagby, John
Date: 12/06/1889
City: Hospital for Insane
Age: 35 YR
Sex: M
Vol: 2
Page 21
Certificate No. 3318
County: Morgan County.

It turns out that J'Ville SH is short for Jacksonville State Hospital which in 1889 was know as the Illinois Central Hospital for the Insane.

Clearly this is John Carroll Bagby based on date of death, age and burial location.

I also found a note that the hospital was used for short term problems where the patient returned to the family, severe mental problems where the patient was separated from society and as a home for senile seniors. It would be intereting to find out which category (obviously not the last since he was only 36).

 

Update: February 22, 2004

John Carroll Bagby's Death Certificate that Ray Simmons was kind enough to obtain. As you will remember, John died at the Illinois Central Hospital for the Insane in Jacksonville, Mason County.

The information on the death certificate is very interesting and explains a lot.

Cause: Necrotic softening of the brain — atrophy of left hemisphere very pronounced.

Complications: Hemiplegia and other attending paralytic symptoms.

Duration: 1 years.

Necrotic means tissue death: the death of cells in a tissue or organ caused by disease or injury. Hemiplegia is the inability to move one side: total or partial inability to move, experienced on one side of the body, and caused by brain disease or injury.

As I commented to Ray, Maxine and Clarence, it reads to me like John had a major stroke that left him paralyzed on one side and he was in the Jacksonville Hospital because those facilities were also used like modern convalescent hospitals.

— Dan Dunham

 

John Bagby death cert

 

John Bagby (death certificate)

State of Illinois Physician's Certificate of Death

Time of death: 6:40 AM

 

Child of JOHN BAGBY and MARY GARNER [GREEN] is:

1. MURTES BAGBY, b. Unknown, d. Unknown

Note: John Bagby also raised the son of Mary Garner [Green] — BRUCE MELVIN GREEN, a step-son from his wife's first marriage.

 

BASIL AUGUSTUS BAGBY 5, (WILLIAM 4, ROBERT 3, WILLIAM 2, ROBERT 1) was born May 31, 1861, and died June 03, 1939, Centerview, Johnson County, Missouri. He married SUSAN ARENA BAGBY February 25, 1885 in Skidmore, Nodaway County, Missouri. She was born August 16, 1868 in Nodaway, Missouri and died August 27, 1950 in Topeka, Kansas. Both are buried at Evergreen Cemetery, Effingham County, Kansas.

Notes for BASIL AUGUSTUS BAGBY: Research below submitted by Dan Dunham, 1999.

Known as "Guss"

Gus Bagby drove a team of mules hitched to a sled from his home in Augustus, Illinois, to the home of the bridge at Skidmore, Missouri. A distance of 300 miles. The temperature was 15 degrees below zero and drifts so deep that the sled went over the fences in place. It was the middle of April before that snow left.

They lived near Skidmore, Missouri, until 1903 when they moved to a farm 1-1/2 miles southwest of Nortonville, Kansas. They moved back to Skidmore in 1905 where Mr. Bagby had a store for about a year.

In Septemeber, 1906, they moved to Lone Tree, Missouri, from Lone Tree they moved to Effingham, Kansas, in 1908. There they lived until 1920, when they purchased a farm one mile east of Cummings, Kansas.

They retired from farm life in March 1938, and removed to Centerville, Missouri to live with their daughter, Mary.

Obituary for Basil Augustus Bagby (May 31, 1861 — June 3, 1939)
From Monday, June 5, 1939, newspaper clipping (paper name unknown)
Transcribed by Dan Dunham from clipping supplied by Maxine Barber Ulrich

HOLD BAGBY RITES

Funeral services for B. A. Bagby were held this afternoon from the Methodist church in Cummings. Burial was in the Round Mound cemetery on the family lot.

Mr. Bagby, who died Saturday at his home in Centerview, MO. Had passed his 78th birthday just three days previously. He had been ill a week.

For many years residents of the Effingham and Cummings communities, Mr. and Mrs. Bagby retired from farm life a year ago and removed from Cummings to Centerview.

B.A. Bagby was born at Augusta, Ill. He and Mrs. Bagby, who survived him, celebrated their golden wedding anniversary at Cummings four years ago.

Surviving are also six children, Mrs. H. E. Bonnell, Nortonville, C. H. Bagby, Big Springs, Ned., J. R. Bagby, Stockton, Mrs. Herbert H. Barber, Atchison, Mrs. Ray Nye, Centerview, Mo., and Mrs. J. S. Grimes, Huron; 14 grandchildren and a great grandchild; two sisters, Mrs. Ellen Osgood, Long Beach, Calif., and Mrs. Addie Byrnes, Mt. Sterling, Ill.

The funeral was conducted by the Rev. Giessler, Nortonville. The music was furnished by a mixed quartet of the Methodist church, Nortonville.

The pallbearers were Tom Henson, George Baker, Charles Turner, Charlie Tull, Joe Cassidy and Newall Higley.

 

Child of BASIL BAGBY and SUSAN BAGBY is:

1. MINNIE MAY BAGBY, b. May 4, 1887, Missouri; d. November 1960, Atchison, Atchison County, Kansas; buried Evergreen Cemetery, Effingham County, Kansas; m. Henry E Bonnel, about 1906, unknown; b. February 16, 1882, Kansas, d. unknown; buried Effingham Cemetery, Effingham County, Kansas.
2. CHARLES HOMER BAGBY, b. November 28, 1888, Missouri; d. November 23, 1877, Big Springs, Deuel County, Nebraska; buried Big Springs Cemetery, Deuel Couty, Nebraska; m. Nellie Garman, September 15, 1909, unknown; b. August 8, 1890, Iowa; d. August 17, 1974, unknown; buried Big Springs Cemetery, Deuel County, Nebraska.
3. JAMES ROBERT BAGBY, b. November 20, 1890, Missouri; d. unknown; m. Nellie Franklin Ford, July 10, 1913, Levenworth, Atchison County, Kansas; b. about 1890, Missouri; d. unknown.
4. ADDIE ELLEN BAGBY, b. April 4, 1896, Skidmore, Nodaway County, Missouri; d. May 7, 1989, Texas City, Galveston County, Texas; buried Evergreen Cemetery, Effingham, Atchison County, Kansas; m. Herbert Hazard Barber, February 5, 1919, Leavenworth, Kansas; b. April 26, 1896, Atchison County, Kansas; d. September 15, 1975, St. Joseph, Missouri; buried Evergreen Cemetery, Effingham, Atchison County, Kansas.
5. MARY M. BAGBY, b. July 22, 1899, Nodaway County, Missouri; d. September 251992, Holton, Jackson County, Kansas; buried Evergreen Cemetery, Effingham County, Kansas; m. Edwin Ray Nye, March 15, 1919, unknown; b. August 20, 1895, Kansas, d. December 26, 1987; buried Evergreen Cemetery, Effingham County, Kansas.
6. HELEN BAGBY, b. November 13, 1901, Nodaway County, Missouri; d. May 1982, Holton, Jackson County, Kansas; m. James Scarboro Grimes, July 1922, unknown; b. May 26, 1898, unknown; d. June 17, 1972, Holton, Jackson County, Kansas.

 

ADDIE L. BAGBY 5, (WILLIAM 4, ROBERT 3, WILLIAM 2, ROBERT 1) was born January 21, 1864, Augusta, Hancock County, Illinois and died September 18, 1947, Keokuk, Lee County, Iowa while living with her son Harvey Byrns; buried Mt. Sterling City Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois. She married (1) JAMES MILTON BYRNS October 10, 1883 in Adams County, Illinois. He was born February 26, 1859, Brown County, Illinois and died April 5, 1903, Mount Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; buried Mt. Sterling City Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois. She married (2) JAMES BYRNS October 10, 1883 in Adams County, Illinois. He was born Unknown and died Unknown.

NOTES:

Addie L Bagby and Addie Ellen Bagby are two different people, Addie L. is the Aunt of Addie Ellen, a distinction that has been often incorrectly published by several other researchers.

Obituary — Brown County Democrat, September 1947

Mrs. Addie Bagby Byrns of near Ferris, died last Thursday morning in St. Joseph hospital at Keokuk, Iowa. Deceased was a much respected former citizen of this community, and a prominent member of the Methodist church when residing here. At the time of her passing she was 83.

She was born January 21, 1864, and married James Burns, who preceded her in death. To this union were born three children Edna E. (deceased) Harvey and Ben. She was the last of her family, several brothers and sisters passing earlier. She resided for may years in the Scott's Mill neighborhood, northeast of Mt. Sterling. Funeral services were held Saturday morning at 10:00 in the Elms at Carthage and at 11:45 short graveside services were held at the Mt. Sterling cemetery, the Rev. C.J. Kinrade officiating.

Mrs. Byrns had made her home with her son, Harvey Byrns, west of Ferris.

 

Children of ADDIE BAGBY and JAMES BYRNS are:

1. EDNA ELLA BYRNS, b. November 1883, Mt. Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; d. April 22, 1942, Mount Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; buried Mt. Sterling City Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois; m. Ruben Roy McDannold, September 21, 1904, Mt. Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; b. September 22, 1879, Illinois; d. June 6, 1960, Mt. Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; buried Mt. Sterling City Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois. One child, Leta Maude McDannold, b. September 13, 1905, Brown County, Illinois; d. August 8, 1913, Brown County, Illinois (Drowned in Crooked Creek, Mt Sterling, Brown County, Illinois); buried August 10, 1913, Mr. Sterling City Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois.

NOTES: Drowning of Leta McDannold on August 8, 1918 as told by Corlis Campbell to Lois Glasgow.

Large picnics and fishing parties were not uncommon along the creek and those who enjoyed hand fishing and with a seine, which was legal then, knew the creek well. They knew where the best places for fishing were, the shallow places suitable for wading and where those not skilled in swimming could play.

Such a combination of actiivities was planned for August 8th and a number of families with well packed picnic baskets drove to a bend in Crooked Creek through Oliver Carnicles's farm. To get to the picnic spot, they drove through his barn lot, through the pasture, and along a branch to where it joined the creek. There were about 40 people to enjoy this outing.

After dinner, the men went up the creek and went fishing with a big seine. Suddenly they heard the honking of car horns. Immediately Corlis Campbell and George Ritchey jumped from the water, one to the west bank and one on the opposite side and ran toward the picnic site. As they ran they heard, "The girl went down." Corlis and George began to swim and dive as they proceeded toward each other. Corlis reported, "I felt her with my foot." Both men dived and they brought her up together. Loving hands worked with her an hour or more directed by both a lifeguard from Chicago and a trained nurse, Myrtle Walker, but there was no life to respond. Leta, the twelve year daughter of Roy and Edna McDannold was gone.

A.J. Campbell aged 75 years and another old man were pole fishing near the picnic site. Three girls, Leta McDannold, Vesta Tweedle and Bernice Kirkham were wading with arms across each others shoulders. Suddenly they stepped into deep water causing all three girls to go under. Mr. Campbell went into the water, found the Tweedle girl and got her to the bank. He went back for the Kirkham girl who was older and who became panicky, causing her to climb up over his head, pushing him into the water. The old man on the bank could not swim but seeing Mr. Campbell's need for help swung his fishing pole of which Mr. Campbell caught enabling him to get the second girl to the shore.

This life saving experience was reported to Carnegie Institute who sent a representative to investigate the circumstances. As part of the investigation, he visited the site of the drowning measured th depth and rate of flow of the water at that location and interviewed those persons involved in the accident.

Later the Institute sent two men to interview Mr. Campbell expecting to award him the medal and some money. He accepted the medal but declined the money. They asked also if any of the rest of the family was in need of money but no one ever claimed any of the monetary reward.

Mr. Campbell was one of 26 persons to receive the Carnegie medal for that year (1918). He was proud of the attractive bronze medal inscribed with his name, the young girls' names and the date on which the heroic action occurred.

ALEXANDER JAMES CAMPBELL

Mt. Sterling, Illinois

Alexander James Campbell, 69, farmer, saved Bernice M. Kirkham, 15, from drowning, Mt. Sterling, Illinois, August 8, 1918. Bernice and another girl, who could not swim, were wading in Crooked Creek and got into water eight feet deep 20 feet from the bank. Campbell waded from the bank and swam 10 feet to Bernice, who had become separated from her companion. He was dressed. Bernice took hold of him around the neck and forced him to the bottom. He could not break her hold and could not rise, but he swam five feet under water. A man waded from the bank and extended a stick to Campbell, who caught hold of it and was drawn to shallow water with Bernice. The other girl was drowned.

19085—1577

Source: Carnagie Hero Foundation at: http://www.plumsystems.com/db/chf/plum_press.asp?id=19085

2. HARVEY WILLIAM BYRNS, b. December 27, 1887, Illinois; d. June 1966, Rushville, Schuyler County, Illinois; m. Clara Whitson, about 1910, unknown; b. November 28, 1886, Huntsville, Schuyler County, Illinois; d. Unknown. Five (5) Children.
3. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN BYRNS, b. February 1893, Mt. Sterling, Brown County, Illinois, d. 1949, Mt. Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; buried, Mr. Sterling City Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois; m. Zeta A Curry, unknown; b. about 1892, Illinois; d. unknown. (Two daughters: Barbara Jean Byrns; b. Unknown; d. Unknown. Phyllis Maxine Byrns, b. 1920, Mt. Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; d. April 23, 1926, Mr. Sterling, Brown County, Illinois; buried Mt. Sterling City Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois.)

Note: Detailed research on this family was submitted by Dan Dunham.

 

 

 

 

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